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Former Influential Banker Here. AMA

I was born in 1919 in Switzerland; my family descended from the higher middle-class European Aristocracy in the 19th century.
From 1938 to 1945, I have been the head of my fathers Banking Family; a transnational organization centered around Switzerland and the Netherlands and closely related to certain actors in the 'City of London' environment. After the Second World War, I, as many others, became increasingly detached from the elitarian environment of distinctly masonic character because of my support of the National Socialist German Government and my growing dissent towards the counter-initiatic 'occultist' ideology exhausting almost the entire landscape of international relations. After more than 80 years I will attempt to recollect my memories and answer questions about my activities and affiliations during that time especially; the account might prove insightful to authentic students of the ever growing counter-initiatic world, which are certainly numerous, even, or perhaps especially, in places like these.

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>> Why did the elitarian environment not support Hitler?

++ There is not a singular elitarian environment. This world is such that only ideas that are borne in a fruitious elitarian atmosphere may thrive and be manifested at lower levels. National Socialism had many international supporters; almost of them, except myself and some of my friends, abandoned it however after 1941.

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>> are poor people ,poor because they want to?

++ Most people are strangled by imaginary quantitative concepts which are inherently dead, therefore nothing can grow. The architects of this misery brag about being sorcerers apprentices who have mastered a "financial alchemy"; an entirely counter-initiatic term which lacks any significance.

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>> What are your thoughts on Basel III? Why was it allowed to happen? What are their end goals?

++ These questions are insignificant. All inquries of this kind will surely be redeemed by analytical and rationalistic thinking alone; the mode of thinking which deprives of principle and creates uniformity and expansion.

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>> you guys happy or worried at the Occupy Wall Street stuff? felt like the realest one in my time on the line

++ I am neither happy nor worried; in the face of the mobilization of deranged and confused minds there will never be rest. Nobody knows what he is doing and under which stars he is playing; all movement in that environment is only significant with regards to whether it accelerates Ragnarök.

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>> You took an awful long time to switch sides ‘friend.’ Traitors die first, it’s a tradition held even by both ideologies.

++ It is not despicable to be on the other side, as long as it is only for a finite amount of time. In my case, it has been approximately eight years.

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>> I thought you perhaps spoke Dutch with the bank being partially from the Netherlands.
Why is the Netherlands so deeply involved in these things?
Can you confirm it is a country used for experiments on crowd control?

++ I don't speak dutch beyond 'een beetje'. The language that was cultivated in our environment was german, and all bearers of influence of dutch origin mastered the german language quite well. The dutch aristocracy is involved in all matters of financial aristocracy since the founding of the Bank of Amsterdam. The dutch belong to a certain class of families, alongside the 'Black guelph' of the British, a habit that traces to the old guard of spanish aristocracy during the renaissance, in that they in a certain way claim descendance from the House of David. The most striking condensation of the Dutch influence in National Socialism is Bernhard zur Lippe-Biesterfeld, who belonged to various transnational 'lodges' and who has been responsible for the re-congregation of the elites of the 'old guard' into the Bilderberg Group. I had initiated him myself into the lodges "Orden des Schweitzerkreuz" and "Societá Millefiori".

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>> Can you talk about Child sacrifice, how prevalent is it, how common is it among the higher class,
What goes on at the Horse races ecpecially for the rich?
Tell me about the depravity

++ You should read my answer as to why 'the elitarian environment' would not support Hitler. The particularity lies in the fact that every environment is sealed and anonymous; yet bound to certain "meta-political" alliances, as it is called. What they all in reality have in common is that they originate from a degeneration of ancient metaphysical tradition. A deviation that has gotten so extreme and so 'inverse' of all truth and significance that the term "counter-initiation" is appropriate. The cultivation of such deformities that you mention have been precisely predictable. It was quite clear that blood rituals, sorcery and mass rituals would become widespread.

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>>What historical happening that you witnessed 'behind the scenes was most memorable to you, and why?

++ The conference of Evian and the secret signing of the Rublee-Wohlthath agreement in 1939 between 32 countries which were supposed to regulate jewish emigration into Palestine. The project was almost finished and the agreement was such that it was valid under international law. It was the Jewish agency and many other zionist organizations which, however, would not recognize the validity of this agreement, delaying its realization and ultimately sacrificing millions of their own people; purposefully, as I might add, as a sacrifice can never be accidental.

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>> Do you have any experience, knowledge or rumors of the AI god that they are listening to? Transhumanism is what they are searching for, right ?
I say they, because its hard to differentiate the "bad guys"

++ The insights I have do not extend beyond the second World War; by that time I was affiliated with all kinds of masonically flavoured orders, and these orders had in common a theosophic, highly syncretistic and promethean/luciferian outlook. Every manifestation of degeneracy in the contemporary world was already predictable at that time through this peculiar lense. These things were not quite developed yet at that time; a sinister brewing in the basement but it was obvious that this subterranean, infra-spiritual brewing would one day manifest into a world-wide governance not only of negation, but of inversion.

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OSWALD-IGNATIUS VON DER HEYDT, born 1919 in Geneva as the 'illegitimate' son of German-Swiss banker EDUARD VON DER HEYDT (1882-1964); his mother is therefore not Vera von Schwalbach (1899-1996), whom Eduard married in 1919. Oswald-Ignatius grew up in Switzerland; he was initiated into the freemasonic lodge "Fiat Lux" in Luzern in 1936. In 1938, he assumed directorship of "„Von der Heydt-Kersten's Bank“, which his father had established in Amsterdam in 1920, and which was highly connected to the Bleichröders, later Thyssen's, and many other influential European Banking Families. In the same year, Oswald attended the Conference of Evian as an 'inofficial' guest. He is discernable in the attached picture, as I highlighted his appearance with a red circle.

During WWII, he was involved in many businesses with the German Reichsbank concerning jewish assets and gold transfers. He was initiated into the transnational 'Ur' lodges "Der Ring", "Rosa-Stella Ventorum" and later "Edmund Burke" in 1939 (1,2) and 1942 (3). Around the end of WWII, Oswald-Ignatius and many other families of swiss and dutch origin, helped many german-elitarian figures escape abroad and secure as much financial assets as possible from allied confiscation.

After the end of the war, he, as representative of his family enterprise, as well as many other families refused to ahere to the new elitarian congregation into the Atlantic Charter. After he had been expelled from "Edmund Burke" and "Rosa-Stella-Ventorum", he faked his suicide in 1945 and worked on the destruction of all public, official, semi-official, private and even initiatic documentations that involve his name, resulting in an almost complete erasure of it from "history"; this procedure is not as uncommon in the environment that he inhabited. In 1955, he might have been involved in the establishment of the "Universal Masonic Lodge" in Geneva.

-Atlas.

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>> How are you sure the poster indeed is 103 years old?

++ I cannot tell you why I know that the author is indeed Von der Heydt; you will have to take my word for it. I know this figure from my own involvement in secret societies during the Age of Globalization.

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>> What else do you know about him?

++ He held a contempt against Freemasonry of the Scottish Rite, or any speculative framework of post-1717 character, be it Continental or otherwise, which is the overarching reality of the contemporary para-political environment; coextensive in the late 19th century and ongoing 20th century with countless modalities of theosophy, psychic and eclectic research, and elemental/nature worship.

Von der Heydt had a reactionary attitude, which almost completely isolated him in the elitarian sphere, which had abandoned the Swiss/Dutch patronage locus in the early stages of WWII already. His initiation into "Edmund Burke" in 1942 was only "honorary", as it was clear by then that all congregations of transnational nature would be subordinated under the Atlantic Charter.

++ In March 1945, in order to avoid prosecution in the various showtrials that would follow, not only in the public sphere, but also within the extensive shadow justice system of British Intelligence - he engaged a plot that would usher in his apparent suicide on March 25, 1945, after which he sought refuge in the Netherlands and Denmark. In some way, he was able during that time to get ordered the destruction of almost all his personal documents, semi-personal documents or even most documents of his fathers bank, and all its associates, in which his name or function was mentioned, if even indirectly; thus he left almost no trace of his identity within the non-initiatic sphere.

++ I do not know much more about what happened in the following years, only that he had been in France, the Netherlands, Denmark, Italy and Egypt for some time, and that he, through his loose bond with "Der Ring", that he still maintained (!), was able to influence local events, especially in Switzerland; a lot of his former associates had gathered in the Alpine Lodge, this being his anchor point from which he could establish the "Universal Mason Lodge", which is not only tied to various United Nations-related offices, but also gathers not few reactionary thinkers; a quite unusual constellation indeed. Von der Heydt also participated in the establishment of the "1001 Club", an oligarchical organization devoted towards ecological social engineering and nature preservation, formally a financial trust for the WWF.

++ In 1972, he was subjected to a process that is akin to an "exoneration" beyond the ritual dynamic of initiatic organizations. He would have again been "welcomed with a threefold brotherly embrace" into the cenacles that he had once abandoned. He lives in a very small isolated and essentially apolitical circle of aristocrats.

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>> Have you ever met Oswald Ignatius von der Heydt?

++ I have never met him personally. I knew about his story through documents that are still accessible within certain elitarian and 'para-political' organizations and through common acquaintances, Bernhard zur Lippe-Biesterfeld is a noteworthy case; he seems to have been a close friend to him. I have exchanged letters with Von der Heydt a few weeks ago, after I learned that he had let himself be heard at the edge of the world. Jolly!

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>> "this procedure is not as uncommon in the environment that he inhabited"
What do you mean? Can you tell us some examples where that happened previously?

++ Many universal scientists of the Renaissance could be named, distinguishing themselves through their anonymity and longevity, the former being of great initiatic value. Francis Bacon, who appeared as a writer under various names; the 'Count of St. Germain' and Paracelsus are further examples from the Renaissance Era. In recent times, this praxis has degenerated from its noble origins towards a self-perpetuating double mill under which certain figures try to disguise their corruptness and nefariousness by presenting their cowardice in an initiatic continuity. There are entire environments, primarily in the economic order, that only exist through this type of sub-individual self-perpetuation, and it is leading towards ever more intellectual and moral bankruptcy.

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>> It seems that this man disagrees with the plan you’ve been outlining in your threads. What’s so interesting about him that justifies making a new thread?

++ He is neither agreeing nor disagreeing; he just wants nothing to do with it. He recognizes, as almost everyone else, the threefold constitution of humanity according to Valentine - the globalized neo-feudalism being only one modality of it within the political sphere, however inverted its constitution might be, which stands for debate - all recognize, including Von der Heydt, that there is no need and no possibility to directly oppose that constellation.

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>> Even though we are technically enemies, by the nature of our stations in life, these conversations and exchanges are greatly meaningful to me. I wish I had something more important to do with my life than live in this age of decay.
Do you have any advice for an impoverished gentry to regain a seat at the social-engineering table?

++ We are not technically enemies. I have no advice for an impoverished gentry to regain a seat at the social-engineering table. Do you know one?

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>> Atlas! I want to know if there's someone out there that you can trust and who is the closest to the truth. Is Alex Jones a disinfo agent?

++ It is important to understand that the aristocracy does not constitute a coherent unified environment; there are different, distinct circles in several orders of extension, power and initiatic quality. It is found that the 'Conspiracy Theory' often originates from a sector that is very close to the actual conspiracy itself; it stems most often from the attempt of one corner of the elitarian environment to discredit the other.

Such is the case with most anti-judaist and anti-masonic propaganda, distributed sometimes most directly from Zionist organisations themselves. The "Protocols Of The Learned Elders Of Zion" are a prime example, the Memphis-Misraim Rite, the Alliance Israelite Universelle and many more figures answering for their dissemination.

The Anti-Rothschild propaganda is another example, which for a large part goes on the account of Continental freemasonry, especially French masonry, who in that way sought to discredit the british royal family and the City Of London in the 19th century. There has also been an effort by British Intelligence Agencies in the early 20th century to convince the public that the British Race was a descendant of the Tribe of Judah.

In the 1950s, the Intelligence Apparatus in the anglo-Atlantic area was tremendously extended. such as with the founding of the CIA, which became the umbrella under which the creation of a dense apparatus of NGOs and public bureaus was instantiated, driving forward experiments involving the collective and individual 'psychosphere' and all sorts of social engineering. This slow and steady re-ordering of the western hemisphere brought about a lot of "ecological niches" in which new types of discerning and paranoid characters would engage in research on psychic phenomena and political corruption, often intermingled in what seems to be generally termed "conspirituality". (Continued)

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These characters must exist, and their respective environments must be cultivated, because they have a function to fulfill, regarding the flow of information within the public sphere in general, as well as 'mediators' between the lowest castes and the aristocratic crucibles that might use them as sources of information themselves (!) or as pawns in the destruction of a certain competing aristocratic modality. One example of this predicament is the dutch researcher "Joel van der Reijden", who has created an extensive archive that he calls the "Superclass Index".

https://isgp-studies.com/ngo-list-foundations-and-think-tanks-worldwide

It classifies all sorts of oligarchical, elitarian organizations, from public offices to oligarchical funds, NGOs and discrete or semi-initiatic organizations (such as the Pilgrim's Society and the Bohemian Grove), and Conspiracy Research Centers. His research is so exact that even within some of the mentioned organisations his work is appreciated and sometimes used for further inquiry into different sectors as well.

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It must be mentioned as well, however, that Van der Reijdens understanding of the esoteric hierarchies that constitute this very structure is practically nil.

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>> Greetings, Atlas.
++ "After the end of the war, he, as representative of his family enterprise, as well as many other families refused to ahere to the new elitarian congregation into the Atlantic Charter."
What was the reasoning that led to the refusal of the Atlantic Charter, by these families? You mention him being a reactionary, but that he was solitary in this attitude. So why did these other families also refuse? Loss of power? Were all of them, also financially associated to Nazi Germany in any way?

"In March 1945, in order to avoid prosecution in the various showtrials that would follow, not only in the public sphere, but also within the extensive shadow justice system of British Intelligence"
I suppose this took place because of his association to the Reichsbank and from his dealings during the end of the war, helping escapees and his conduct in gathering assets. If he had accepted the Atlantic Charter, would he still have risked prosecution?

"an oligarchical organization devoted towards ecological social engineering"
You described him as apolitical and as a reactionary. To what ends did he involve himself with social engineering? And in what ways did he dedicate his efforts in this area?

++ Greetings, Ford.
"What was the reasoning that led to the refusal of the Atlantic Charter, by these families?"
Their lack of agility and their adherence to the various fascist pseudo-spiritualities that had been propped up in the last decades. I have mentioned elsewhere that the ideological tenets of fascism were not quite foreign to those elitarian groups of the Anglo-American Establishment, some of whom saw in it a blueprint for a 'restoration' of Kshatryatic (warrior caste) rule, as envisioned by Julius Evola, among many others (see J.Evola: Pagan Imperialism, 1933).

It was never intended for Germany to get into a war, and after it was seen that the war efforts of the 'Axis' powers would be quite fruitless, and with considerable influence from zionist organizations, that particular paradigm was abandoned ,favouring instead a "Demo-Aristocratic" approach, in which the highest workings would be concealed behind the chaotic dynamic inherent in free-market capitalism.

"Were all of them, also financially associated to Nazi Germany in any way?"
Yes. As I have written above, this environment of only a few families, made up almost the entire financial bedrock of National Socialism: Thyssen, Bleichröder, Biesterfeld, Schwalbach, Von der Heydt; some of them related to the Morgans and Rothschilds.

"If he had accepted the Atlantic Charter, would he still have risked prosecution?"
Possibly. Franz von Papen and Hjalmar Schacht, both prominent associates of the financial conglomerate mentioned, and members of certain 'Ur'-Lodges, were charged in the Nuremberg Trials. Franz von Papen spent 4 years in a labour camp. After his release, his profane reputation was severely demolished, but he continued to work inside the elitarian cenacles on the construction of the European Union according to the ideals of Coudenhove-Kalergi. Von Papen was also involved in the Stauffenberg assassination attempt of 1944, as was British Intelligence. (Continued)

++ The red and yellow colours on the variations of the Wirmer/Stauffenberg flag correspond to the red cross upon a yellow surface of the Pan-European blazon.

"You described him as apolitical and as a reactionary. To what ends did [Von der Heydt] involve himself with social engineering?"
During his time as the chief of the Family Bank, he was involved with many activities that would nowadays be called "Social Engineering", although it was certainly of a much different nature back then. The locus of all fascist-esoterical ideas has been the establishment of a "Holy Empire"; a restoration of the spiritual unity between different states of the hierarchy, akin to the "Synarchy" of Alexandre Saint-Yves d'Alveydre. After the war, Von der Heydt proclaimed that all these tenets spring forth from the realms of "Counter-Tradition" or "Counter-Initiation".

++ "To what ends did he involve himself with social engineering?"
To be more precise, the aspects of Social Engineering within National Socialism correspond to a darwinistic 'Racial Alchemy'; badly termed, but obviously intended as such; the expected rebirth of man in the crucibles of bio-architects, who set the environment for his blossoming. The 'Social Engineering' however, was much less developed in that time than it is today; after the 1950s, with the help of figures like Aldous Huxley, and many more institutions of the Tavistock-CIA axis, Social Engineering became universally developed, systematic and sophisticated, to the extent that the huge intelligence apparatus might collapse under its own weight.

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>> Why would it be considered "Counter-Tradition"? Would it be specifically because of the idea of "unity", between "different states"? Or something else?

"To be more precise, the aspects of Social Engineering within National Socialism correspond to a darwinistic 'Racial Alchemy'"
I see. This ties together with what you mentioned in past threads, regarding existent underlying currents of National Socialism.

"- Aldous Huxley - Holy Empire"
How familiar are you with the concept of a Portuguese "fifth empire"? Not specifically related to that, but this general vision, described by many names. What would you say is the time-span before all the elitarian efforts, culminate to the realization of this goal? It already exists today in its raw form. How long until we attain something that more properly resembles Huxley's vision? I mean that in relation to some more specific characteristics he described, which are impossible to overlook.

"to the extent that the huge intelligence apparatus might collapse under its own weight."
What are the implications of this? A revolution, or the creation of something new but similar? Civilizational collapse? What are your personal interests in relation to this speculation?

++ "Portuguese Fifth Empire"
It appears to be related to what I have written; this concept traces back to the Classical Era however, whereas the fascist "Synarchist" movements draw from late 19th-century theosophical 'mythology', and are merely modernistic re-interpretations of the Agartha/Shambala myth and such. In the present era, this line of thought is being perpetuated by Alexander Dugin and his Eurasianism.

Your other questions I have already answered. The most important focal point towards which all attention is focused are 2024, 2030 and 2050. In between the last two stations lies the next Great Conjunction.
The motivation that drives the 'Smart City" scheme is the centralized control of the human psychospheral environment which allows him to access archetypal energies. By getting control of the 'five human senses', the immediate perceptory circle (as figured in the famous painting of DaVinci as well), the 'conspirators' will be able to put humanity directly under the influence of certain archonian (meaning archon-related) viz. infra-psychic influences. This is the esoteric description of the "Smart City", whose inhabitants will be subjected to a highly ritualized lifestyle on a gigantic summoning ground, bearing phenomena that will be interpreted exoterically as technological or extraterrestrial interventions. The year 2030 might be a time in which this environment will be manifested, perhaps it isn't.

The Great Conjunction of 2040 will see the end of the Spacefaring agreement of 1969, which might allow governments to space travel. The Smart City will probably be established by that time.
2050 is an important focal year, because all alliances and covenants of 'initiatic' character will expire, if they haven't already done so.
These focal points were determined in 2006, an era about which I have written extensively

++ "Counter-Tradition"
This term was coined in the works of René Guénon and the 'Traditionalist/Perennialist School'.

++ "What are your personal interests in relation to this speculation?"
There is certainly some sort of catastrophy, or a sequence of catastrophies on their way; and the era between 2024 and 2030 is most significant in this regard for a multitude of reasons. The paradigm thence established cannot and is not intended to last indefinitely. The key seems to be 2050; it is totally unclear what will happen after that mark is surpassed; it is expected that even the restricted modalities of living established in the last decades before will stop existing in one way or another.

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>> Can you tell us more about the symbolism of the coronavirus?

++ The Crown signifies the conclusion of an alchemical process of unfoldment. It belongs to the "wedding garment"; some hermetical ilustrations show trees with crowns instead of leaves. Some elitarian groups put a 'crown' on the era of globalization after WWII; one might see more continentally disjoint social experiments. This is the 'major' meaning of the Crown. The 'minor' darker meaning shows an esoteric inversion or reversion of globalization: The same way economical and political dynamics spread over transnational environments around the globe, the Corona puts a 'poisonous crown' on this process by 'reversing' it; the 'disease' spreading the same way globalism once spread; economic dependency chains are usurped by infection chains; and the financial alchemy is mirrored in a smaller scale with the unstable PCR.